14:16:06 From Bernie McComb to Everyone: Is Nordstrom still pulling strings for utmost confusion in the background? 14:23:07 From Mick Nolan - LF to Everyone: Countries like Australia are given 12 months to re-visit their Targets - what is the view on how useful this will be in term of campaigners able to maintain pressure here? 14:24:53 From John Englart to Everyone: Phaseout of coal (aerosol emissions adding to cooling) needs to be accompanied by reducing methane emissions. Both act in the short term and can counteract each other. 14:29:01 From Rhydian to Everyone: for David: can you comment on complex climate disasters such as experienced in British Columbia this year (with the heat dome and now rain and flooding) and what that shows about our current level of warming and preparedness to be resilient - both in rich and poor countries. 14:29:25 From John Englart to Everyone: David, latest Greenland and Anarctic tipping points was talked about at COP at the Cryosphere pavillion, just not in the official discussions https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgS8tYa6ErDZb_5ZIOpf6fA/videos 14:31:13 From John Coulter to Everyone: https://www.climaterealitycheck.net/ 14:31:28 From Rhydian to Everyone: for Rikki: politicians often cite that traditional custodiana are divided, and that some support fracking on country. Is this your experience? 14:31:47 From David Spratt to Everyone: Climate Reality Check is available at: 14:31:50 From David Spratt to Everyone: www.climaterealitycheck.net 14:32:37 From John Englart to Everyone: Back in 2012 Greenland tipping point threshold: "essentially ice-free state is in the range of 0.8-3.2 °C, with a best estimate of 1.6 °C." https://takvera.blogspot.com/2012/03/global-warming-threshold-for-greenland.html 14:33:19 From Jim Crosthwaite to Everyone: Question - Is China positioning itself to lead global climate action (given its statements on coal & finance) while also engaging in a war of position with the USA/EU? Any hope here? This is 'suggested' in new IEEFA post - https://ieefa.org/ieefa-eu-considers-bowing-out-of-gold-standard-taxonomy-leaving-room-for-china-to-take-the-lead/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ieefa-eu-considers-bowing-out-of-gold-standard-taxonomy-leaving-room-for-china-to-take-the-lead&utm_source=Weekly+IEEFA+Newsletter&utm_campaign=2ac7e6f572-IEEFA_WeeklyDigest&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_30c2b8506b-2ac7e6f572-128735305 14:35:25 From Robert Dawlings - ARRCC & Climate Choir to Everyone: We have all heard about how 'phasing out' of coal was changed to 'phasing down'. Was there ever any mention of including oil and gas in the statement? 14:35:53 From John Englart to Everyone: Jim, China is still highly insufficient (Climate Action Tracker 3 Nov 2021) despite incremental ambition https://climateactiontracker.org/countries/china/ 14:37:34 From David Spratt to Everyone: No mention of coal or gas in the Glasgow statement. 14:38:05 From Robert Dawlings - ARRCC & Climate Choir to Everyone: I know gas and oil not in the final statement - were they ever mentioned in a draft? 14:39:22 From John Englart to Everyone: COP26 cover decision mentions phase down of coal and inefficient fossil fuel subsidies in para 20 https://unfccc.int/sites/default/files/resource/cop26_auv_2f_cover_decision.pdf 14:41:08 From John Englart to Everyone: But David is right on oil and gas in decisions. Side pledge Beyond oil and gas alliance https://takvera.blogspot.com/2021/11/beyond-oil-and-gas-alliance-launches-at.html 14:41:32 From Gideon to Everyone: At the heart of the climate crisis issue is resolute Mainstream lying by omission (ignoring the science) and lying by commission (denying and contradicting the science). I don't think, I know. Gideon Polya 14:47:31 From Rhydian to Everyone: it's interesting that all the focus on 2050 distracts completely on the more important carbon budget concept. 14:48:49 From John Englart to Everyone: can you post the link in chat Mik? 14:49:10 From Mik Aidt to Everyone: Here's the link to the blog post: https://climatesafety.info/political-revolution-in-australia-driven-by-independents/ 14:49:55 From Mik Aidt to Everyone: This is the video with The Project's report which I recommend everyone to watch: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=914621019168971 15:00:08 From John Englart to Everyone: seedmob actions on Beetaloo Basin gas https://nt.seedmob.org.au/take_action_now ECNT Don't Frack the Beetaloo: https://www.ecnt.org.au/dont_frack_the_beetaloo 15:00:52 From Jim Crosthwaite to Everyone: Very powerful statement from Rikki about what consent means, great parallel with medical consent 15:02:54 From Mick Nolan - LF to Everyone: I think its a stepping stone Rhydian focus on 2050) We now need to move the focus to 2030 and 1.5 degrees trajectory. 15:04:12 From Mary Stringer - Transition Australia to Everyone: From what Rikki has said, that is Contract Fraud 15:11:08 From Jim Crosthwaite to Everyone: On Beetaloo, would it help to monitor TO land with drones (perhaps bought by big enviro NGOs)? 15:11:46 From Bruce Cutts to Everyone: Upsetting to hear the truth Rikki - I hope we can succeed with assistance 15:18:11 From John Englart to Everyone: Global methane obervatory will assist by satellite monitoring of emissions. But we need to do more than that for stopping new projects like Beetaloo https://www.unep.org/explore-topics/energy/what-we-do/international-methane-emissions-observatory 15:22:22 From John Englart to Everyone: Find the Climate Reality check video here https://www.climaterealitycheck.net/video 15:29:12 From Jim Crosthwaite to Everyone: Email me re. Gas Free Victoria network - the statement and next 10th Dec mtg - jimxwaite@gmail.com 15:29:28 From David Spratt to Everyone: Sorry have to leave for another Zoom. Thanks for the discussion. David 15:30:17 From John Englart to Everyone: Labor supports gas pipelines, argues can mix hydrogen into pipeline system, but pipes can only take up to around 10% hydrogen mix due to brittleness impact. It's a furphy for entrenching gas 15:37:37 From Gideon to Everyone: Utterly reject the mendacious, speciescidal, ecocidal, terracidal, and climate criminal Coalition, vote 1 Green (or equivalent) and put the COALition last. Gideon Polya 15:43:37 From Mik Aidt to Everyone: https://climateemergencydeclaration.org/daring-cities-global-forum-for-urban-leaders-taking-on-the-climate-emergency/ 15:44:16 From Mary Stringer - Transition Australia to Everyone: John, I assume you had a part in creating the Local Government Emergency Toolkit. I think it’s worth promoting 15:46:21 From John Englart to Everyone: Mary That was primarily work of former Moreland Greens Cr Dale Martin, but he did consult with others, including myself. https://www.lgcet.com/ 15:47:02 From Jim Crosthwaite to Everyone: Interesting article on Fed Election, and seats in the balance, in today's Saturday Paper. 15:50:02 From Mick Nolan - LF to Everyone: I think we should stop recording ? 15:50:50 From Mary Stringer - Transition Australia to Everyone: Yes, stop recording and cut this part of the recording if it is circulated 15:55:00 From Mik Aidt to Everyone: mikaidt@gmail.com 15:57:52 From Mary Stringer - Transition Australia to Everyone: I encourage you all to list upcoming events on the Transition Australia website, especially online events. Also list your group on the website if it’s not already there https://transitionaustralia.net/add-event/ 15:59:47 From John Englart to Everyone: Background on aviation CO2 emissions for Australia = 5 coal power stations https://takvera.blogspot.com/2021/10/australian-aviation-co2-emissions.html 16:00:32 From Mary Stringer - Transition Australia to Everyone: Come and sing in the Climate Choir folks - it’s a great way to be activist AND feel good 16:02:01 From Bruce Cutts to Everyone: Thanks everyone. Great session 🌏 (have to dash off at 4) 16:02:57 From Mark Carter to Everyone: My contact email is mcarter@flightfree.net.au if you’re interested in the No 3rd Runway @ Tulla campaign. Thanks. 16:03:11 From Amaryll Perlesz DCAN to Everyone: XR Victoria and a wide array of forest and climate groups will be conducting a short, peaceful, family friendly march on Thursday evening Dec. 2 at 5:30 pm from Melbourne Museum to Parliament House. The highlight of the march will be Blinky, our smoking, burning koala prop, made for us by Creature Technologies. We will be liaising with the police throughout the process. No one will lock on or try to blockade the road. We do not anticipate any arrests. 16:03:44 From Jim Crosthwaite to Everyone: Renewable energy inquiry - submissions close 26 November https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/epc-lc/inquiries/inquiry/996 16:03:47 From John Englart to Everyone: thanks Amaryll, was just going to post on that :) 16:05:41 From John Englart to Everyone: community climate events for Victoria listed here https://vcan.net.au/events/